User talk:Byakko

Hi Byakko,

the page you'd need to edit to add that link is MediaWiki:Sidebar. You can't, however, since it's protected and editable only by admins because it's an important interface element. I'll add it for you, but it would be nice if you could tell me a nice caption to write (the raw link is too long, and "Nasu Kinoko Work Glossary" is kinda bland and non-descriptive imo). --Grm wnr 15:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I added it. I shortened it to "Nasu Encyclopedia" because that way it fits in one line, and added "(ja)" (ISO language code for Japanese). I hope it's okay this way. But thinking more about it, there are probably more links that are very relevant, and we can't keep adding them all to the sidebar. Maybe we should start a "links" page? -- grm_wnr Esc 17:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Levels of Perception on Mystic Eyes of Death Perception

You added the line "while it hasn't been mentionned if Tohno/Nanaya Shiki can or not kill concepts (he has yet to be put in such a situation)," but didn't Melty Blood explain that Shiki couldn't kill Wallachia so long as he remained a concept and it wasn't until Arcuied Brunestud used the Crimson Moon to return him to physical form that Shiki could kill him? This is hazy second hand knowledge on my part, so I'm not sure, but I think that was the case. -Kokotosoko 07:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Wallachia is a *phenomenon*. What Shiki couldn't do was stop Wallachia from "happening". I'm not quite sure Ryougi could kill the entire concept of a cyclone forming under given atmospheric circumstances. She would have to rewrite the entire laws of physics for that. --Byakko 19:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I view phenomenons as concepts. If there's a flaw with this view, please correct me. I also see no reason why Ryougi Shiki should be unable to kill that concept. She once claimed that if god existed, she could kill him. If her abilities extend to being able to annihilate such phenomena, then it seems perfectly reasonable to say that she could kill Wallachia. -Kokotosoko 22:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Please check my answer.

by Libra00

Arondight

Out of curiosity, why was the Arondight entry in F/Z Berserker's entry edited? I think its pretty well established that the name of the sword is Arondight, not Alondite, which is a misleading transliteration.

It's pretty well established that it's Alondite, not Arondight. It's not a name of English origin. --Byakko 08:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Not a name of English origin? Pardon me here, but Arondight is the sword of Lancelot, and Lancelot is wholesomely of English origin. And no, its not well established anywhere but here. 'Alondite', on the other hand, is the name of a sword from other fictional sources (a quick google proves it) and is unrelated to Lancelot.--Undisputed seraphim 08:51, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

'and Lancelot is wholesomely of English origin' In fact, no. He was a character made up when the legend went through France and was rewritten several times there ; he was invented by the French writers, taking feats from other knights, and he didn't appear in the earlier versions from the earlier English writers. The name "Alondite" in other fictions is obviously taken from Lancelot, just like how Excalibur is used in as many works of fiction other than the Arthurian legends. --Byakko 09:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, but in this context, Lancelot is a Briton. The name of his sword in English is Arondight. At any rate, I tried looking up Alondite in the French websites, and could not find any relevant articles from Google (Arondight came up with results related, on the other hand). I conclude that, regardless of whatever name it has been called in the past, the English name of Lancelot's sword is now Arondight, is an English knight, and hence that's what the name should be.--Undisputed seraphim 10:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

He's still called "Lancelot du Lac", which is French, even in all the current English versions. I heavily doubt this makes him an English knight. --Byakko 10:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

And Morgan's name is Morgan le Fay, which is a French name too. Yet her origin is Welsh. And is part of the Arthurian legend. Lancelot's name is not exclusively French either, and the French websites didn't recognize the term Alondite anyway. It's a transliteration error.--Undisputed seraphim 11:15, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

After a quick check, it appears that the Matter of Britain spells the sword's name as Arondite, though I don't have a copy of it to check. And "du Lac" is exclusively French and "le Fay" wasn't a problem since it's not the name of someone invented by the French writers. They specifically made him a French knight to have France get its bit of shine in the Arthurian tales, Morgan le Fay was never an issue regarding her nationality. And by the way, I've never heard of any English version that changed him back to being English, even in later English versions, he was still French or just not mentionned. --Byakko 13:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I moved the article to Arondight before I noticed this discussion, sorry about that. Please move it back if you think it's necessary. Though I went strictly by popularity of terms : search for Arondight [1] gives three times as much results as Alondite [2] (first of which is about Lancelot's sword as opposed to sword from Fire Emblem). Arondite [3] fares even worse. -Azaghal 14:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Shiki Tohno

If it so badly worded why don't you change so I don't have to explain it? Cococrash11

Why does nobody write what happen to Shiki in Tsukihime or Melty Blood? Cococrash11

Nothing says it's forbidden, but we do have a policy of WRITING PROPERLY. Look at Arcueid's article for comparison. ---Byakko 17:01, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Don't undo an edit saying source when i posted the source under maximum targets.

If you mean the Caladbolg II page, I don't recall the Fate/Side Material mentioning its range and maximum number of targets. Though, I can't access it right now so I can't check up. --Byakko 09:33, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, checked Fate/Side Material and I call bullshit on that. There is no such thing in there. All F/SM has about Caladbolg II is one picture, not even any comment or description. Please post a scan of the page where you saw that, because I can't see that anywhere. --Byakko 16:27, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

"Is it me or is the ability to report vandalism (or any other "problem with this page") gone ?
(yeah, editing the shit out of this page since it was vandalism anyway so who cares, and I don't really know where else to put this)"
- (from deleted page)

Probably a Wikia bug (or a feature >.> ). Articles have a "Report a problem with this page" link, categories don't. There's also Category:Delete, but meh, haven't seen it being used at all. Deleted both vandalism categories --Azaghal 02:14, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yo, I notice you changed my edit on archer's page regarding Martin Luther. I do recall a moment in Heaven's Feel when at least the Shroud of Martin was referred to Saint Martin Luther, and in addition to this it's been said here on his page for as long as I remember that the cloak he wears is 'from a certain saint', that being very vague; this was the only logical explaination I could come up with. However I'd like to discuss it with you, since I find no talk about the shroud or the cloak at all on the internet, and maybe we can figure out what it really is if I am wrong.

I forgot to log in, but note if you got the message just now it was me. heh

I have no recollection of the origin of that shroud being specifically "Martin Luther", just "Shroud of Martin". It's not impossible that I'm just missing it though, if you can find the quote naming him. I'll try to look into it as well, but ATM I have serious doubts (and I've never seen any reference to him in other big TM reference sites such as Jonnobi, and I don't remember it on the Fuyuki Wiki either). --Byakko 13:10, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

... For example, I just found this where they're discussing the origins of the Martin of that shroud, and the description they're giving is the life of Saint Martin of Tours, patron of beggars, not Martin Luther. Then again, that's "just a discussion board" and I have no idea how relevant to Nasuverse canon these guys are (so I'm not going to add any of this in here), but still. Can't check the Japanese version of the game ATM, unfortunately.

Besides, Martin Luther isn't a Saint AFAIK. --Byakko 13:46, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, I've seen pages describing him as a saint although it is understandable. In the end I wish TM would be more specific, unless they are aiming for speculation by fans such as this. ... lol

New Undead Creatures

In the rumoured Fate/twilight oblivion series there are going to be some kind of cannibalistic zombie like creatures that will appear as neutral enemies of the characters in the story. From what I heard these zombies are going to probably be the resurrected people who died in the Fuyuki city fire which was the aftermath of the 4th Holy Grail War.

1) Forsaken ones: the most common of the zombies.

2) Creeper: zombies that are able to turn other regular people in to zombies (they are an advance kind of zombie).

3) Slashers: Zombies with extremely long, sharp, boney nails that can tear apart humans in less than 3 minutes. However they can't turn other people into zombies unlike the Creepers (Slashers are also another kind of advance zombie).

4) Infected ones: regular people who have been infected by Creepers and who start to turn in to zombies (they are as common as Forsaken Ones).

5) Reapers: zombies that are smarter then other zombies. Able to think plan and attack with consistency as well as being able to infect other people into zombies. They look like zombies dressed up in black hooded cloaks (like Grim Reapers), (one of the three most dangerous zombies in the story).

6) Wall Crawlers/Jumpers: A kind of combimation of a Creeper and a Slasher, they have long, sharp, boney claws like the Slashers but can infect and turn other people into zombies like the Creepers (one of the three most dangerous zombies in the story).

7) Juggernauts: Over grown giant zombies with a monsterous amount of strength, agility and endurance (they are the ultimate most dangerous zombies ever in the story).

8) Shawn Warynn: Because of his creepy grey skin condition and greenish-yellow irises, black background eye condition, the rumoured new lead male protagonist of Fate/twilight oblivion, Shawn Warynn is often mistaken to be one of the zombies. This is not true because Warynn never died before, and one would have to be dead first before one can become a zombie.

Although all these details are still rumours like that new Fate/twilight oblivion thing, but I just thought of sharing this infomation with anyone in my My Talk.---------(Chronicler V)

and Yes I have heard of Fate/Zero, Fate/hollow ataraxia and Fate/Extra, Thank You very much------------(Chronicler V)